You talking how Jay came to the crib, Dame right there and y’all working. Outside of music what was the relationship like?
It was cool, we did everything. Me, Dame, Jay, Tone, Clark, we did everything. We hung out, went to parties, hit shows, messed around with chicks, we did everything. It was dope and we had a good time. A lot of good times back then.
A lot of people when they think Roc-A-Fella they automatically go to Jay. How do you feel like the roles of people like yourself, Dame and Biggs helped shape and fall into place when it was time to create something like Reasonable Doubt?
You know everybody had an important role. If it wasn’t for us, Clark [DJ Clark Kent], Tone [Tone Hooker], a lot of people were in place to set up Roc-A-Fella and if we weren’t around it wouldn’t be a Roc-A-Fella. Not to take anything away from Jay and his skill level – even back then was incredible, if the Roc never formed Jay would have done his thing – but what I did for him it was amazing [laughs].
When recording I know y’all had extras. Do you have any songs stashed away that you wished were heard?
Man, we did an album… Mind you I was working with Jay before Reasonable Doubt. Before we even came to Reasonable Doubt I was making songs with him. So I had like six or seven, eight songs before the album. But like I said when we were recording this music we were recording on ADAT. When Pro Tools came into play nobody used ADAT because you could record on your computer so I was like fuck it I don’t need this shit no more so I threw it out. I didn’t keep any of that shit. My friend Chubby Chubb may have a few of those on cassette tape. I wish, if I would have known or had any idea how crazy this shit would have been I would have kept everything I would have did. ADAT tapes was so bulky and the machines to play them back were so bulky I was like I can’t keep this shit.
It’s not something you can keep in a back room it’s pretty heavy.
It’s really heavy! If I would have known I would have digitized all that shit and threw all that shit in pro tools and kept all that shit. But it happens.
Out of all the things you have produced for that album do you have any that you felt like was your favorite?
Um, probably “Politics” [“Politics As Usual”] man, for the album. It was probably the most fun to produce because of how it came to be. I was with my older son’s mother and she was driving us to the mall and I heard the original record on the radio and it was crazy. We went right to Tower Records, I bought the CD and went home and started messing with it and it sounded crazy. It changed how I worked production wise because I had to chop up a lot of shit. At first, I wasn’t doing chops, I would catch a cool loop, throw some drums on it and bam. With that record, I had to manipulate it and throw different techniques in it. To this day I still use those cause they work.